From: L-Soft list server at St. John's University (1.8c) To: Ian Pitchford Subject: File: "SCI-CULT LOG9705" Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 10:18 AM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:44:09 -0700 Reply-To: Joachim.Schummer@geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Joachim Schummer Organization: Institut fuer Philosophie, Universitaet Karlsruhe Subject: Philosophy of Chemistry Journal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Journal Announcement "Philosophy of Chemistry"! The former Bulletin of the German Working Group "Philosophy and Chemistry" has been extended to an online journal published at the University of Karlsruhe, Germany: HYLE. An International Journal for the Philosophy of Chemistry http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~philosophie/hyle.html HYLE is dedicated to all philosophical aspects of chemistry. Detailed informations concerning scientific concept, subscribing, and contributing to HYLE are available on the homepage. The former issues (1.1995, 2.1996) as well as a preview of 3.1997 are available. There is also a Collected Bibliography "Philosophy of Chemistry" (1700 titles) including articles on the history of theories, ideas, and concepts of chemistry. Web sites containing related links, new publications, and current activities in the philosophy of chemistry are in progress. (Please mail anything of interest to me). Regards, Joachim Schummer ------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Joachim Schummer Institute of Philosophy, University of Karlsruhe Postfach 69 80, D-76128 Karlsruhe, GERMANY ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:45:10 -0700 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Blarne Flinkard Subject: Foundations of Chemistry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This message has been posted on behalf of: Dr. Eric Scerri (scerri@hss.caltech.edu) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- New Journal from Kluwer. Foundations of Chemistry. edited by E.R. Scerri and W.B. Jensen, Scope of Journal. The new journal will take an interdisciplinary approach to the study of philosophy of chemistry. The aim is to foster discourse between chemists, biochemists, philosophers, historians, sociologists and educators with an interest in foundational issues relating to the chemical sciences. We will concentrate on articles which take a naturalistic approach to foundations of chemistry, in the sense of paying close attention to actual research in chemistry. The scope of the journal will range from analytical philosophy such as work on chemical terms and natural kinds to institutional and historical studies on chemistry and biochemistry. Up to now there has simply been no journal which caters for the kind of readership mentioned above. Members of the International Society for Philosophy of Chemistry can receive the journal at the reduced rate of $45.00 per annum. The cost of membership is $5.00 and can be obtained from Dr. D. Rothbart at DROTHBAR@vms1.gmu.edu A free sample copy, when available can be ordered from the publisher, Kluwer Academic Department, PO Box 358, Accord Station, Hingham, MA 02018-0358. phone 617 871 6600 fax 617 871 6528 E-mail : kluwer@wkap.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for papers. We aim to publish the proceedings of the session on Chemistry and Philosophy, Are they Miscible?, held at the American Chemical Society meeting in San Francisco, April 1997, as part of the first few issues of Foundations of Chemistry. The journal also invites other submissions on foundational issues of chemistry as described above. Inquiries etc. should be directed to Eric Scerri, preferably by E-mail at the following address. scerri@hss.caltech.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:46:21 -0700 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Blarne Flinkard Subject: R. Buckminster Fuller (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recall not too long ago that someone posted a dialogue regarding a brilliant guy he knew involved in a technical project for the government who said to really understand it you'd have to be a political scientist. First, I was wondering if that particular someone or possibly someone else who has the dialogue on hand could forward it to me. I regretfully made the mistake of purging it from my files. Thanks in advance to anyone and everyone who sends it. Second, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with the slim volume by R. Buckminster Fuller entitled _Operating_Manual_for_Spaceship_Earth_ which advances this same thesis on a much grander historical scale. He argues that the synthesis of a wide breadth and depth of knowledge--incorporating astronomy, history, medicine, mathematics, politics, navigation, science, etc. depending on the particular historical context--has always been the prerogative of a select power elite. These elite, in essence, get "the big picture" while their minions and specialists are just that, minions and specialists divided and unaware that there is even such a grandiose synthesis to be made. Even though he argued that this system stopped functioning sometime early this century, apparently it hasn't viz. the dialogue cited herein. Crk ckank@cco.caltech.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:08:08 -0700 Reply-To: Joachim.Schummer@geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Joachim Schummer Organization: Institute of Philosophy, University of Karlsruhe Subject: AIPS-Conf. "Philosophy of Science/Technology" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ACADÉMIE INTERNATIONALE DE PHILOSOPHIE DES SCIENCES 1997 Academic Session University of Karlsruhe, Germany, 19-24 May "ADVANCES IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF TECHNOLOGY" _______________________________________________________________ An up-to-date programme is available at: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~philosophie/aips.html ======================================================================= PROGRAMME ======================================================================= ---------------------------- May 20, Tuesday ---------------------------- 10:00 Opening Session - Welcome Local Organizer: Prof. Hans Lenk University Pro-rector: Prof. Wolfgang Eichhorn President of the Academy: Prof. Evandro Agazzi Sect. 1: Technology and Science Invited speakers: 10:30 Evandro Agazzi (Fribourg/Genova, CH/I): From technics to technology: the role of modern science 11:30 Hans Poser (Berlin, D): Structural differences between science and engineering 13:00 Reception by the Mayor of Karlsruhe, Prof. G. Seiler, City Hall 14:15 Press Conference, Institute of Philosophy Contributed papers: 15:15 Imre Hronszky (Budapest, U): The relation of technology and science from Mario Bunge to the technological paradigm conceptions 15:45 Alberto Cordero (New York, USA): Important differences between science and technology 16:15 Earl R. Mac Cormac (Durham, USA): Symmetries and asymmetries between science and technology 16:45 Dudley Shapere (Winston-Salem, USA): The relations between science and technology: Building on what we have learned 17:15 Break 17:45 Joachim Schummer (Karlsruhe, D): Challenging the distinction between science and technology: the case of preparative chemistry 18:15 Theodor Leiber (Augsburg, D): On the impact of deterministic chaos on modern science and technology. Implications for the philosophy and ethics of technology? 18:45 Gert H. Müller (Heidelberg, D): Turing's test and its challenge for technology --------------------------------- May 21, Wednesday --------------------------------- Sect. 2: Technology: Structure and Contemporary Worldview Invited speakers: 8:30 Hans Lenk (Karlsruhe, D): New structural characteristics of new technologies 9:30 Friedrich Rapp (Dortmund, D): The material and the cultural aspect of technology 10:30 Break 11:00 Jean Ladrière (Nivelles, B): L'univers technique dans une perspective ontologique 12:00 Kurt Hübner (Kiel, D): Philosophy of technology and philosophy of modern art 13:00 Lunch Contributed papers: 15:00 Paul Gochet (Liège, B): Extension of the connection method to relevant logic 15:30 Klaus Kornwachs (Cottbus, D): A formal theory of technology 16:00 V. Stepine (Moscow, RUS): Modern technology and socio-cultural dimensions of the contemporary scientific worldview 16:30 Vitali Gorokhov (Moscow, RUS): "Philosophy of technology" and the various "philosophies" within technology 17:00 Break 17:30 Helmut F. Spinner (Karlsruhe, D): A hundred years of philosophy of technology: What is living, what is dead, what is missing for the information age 18:00 Jaap van Brakel (Leuven, B): Telematic life form(s) 18:30 Klaus Mainzer (Augsburg, D): Computer technology and evolution: from artificial intelligence to artificial life ------------------------------- May 22, Thursday ------------------------------- Sect. 3: Technology and Society Invited speakers: 9:00 Günter Ropohl (Frankfurt/M., D): Philosophy of socio-technical systems 10:00 Ladislav Tondl (Prague, CZ): The information dimension of technological artefacts 11:00 Break 11:20 Bernulf Kanitscheider (Gießen, D): Men and future communication systems 12:20 Lunch Contributed papers: 13:45 Wolfgang Krohn (Bielefeld, D): Recursive learning: experimental practices in society - the case of waste technology 14:15 Werner Rammert (Berlin, D): Relations that constitute technology and media that make differences 14:45 Karl Leidlmair (Innsbruck, A): From the philosophy of technology to a theory of media 15:30 Excursion to the Museum of Technology and Work, Mannheim ------------------------------- May 23, Friday ------------------------------- Sect. 4: Technology, Ethics, and Ecology Invited speakers: 8:30 José Sanmartín (Valencia, E): Social assessment of human genome project technology 9:30 Bernd-Olaf Küppers (Jena, D): Some philosophical implications of biotechnology 10:30 Break 11:00 Daniel Cérézuelle (Bordeaux, F): Protéger la nature: Peut-on invoquer la sensibilité pour assignerles limites à la puissance technique? 12:00 Peter Kemp (Copenhagen, DK): La bioéthique: Entre Lebensphilosophie et biotechnologie 13:00 Lunch Contributed papers: 15:00 Katalin G. Havas (Budapest, U): Principles of ethics and the contemporary technology 15:30 Alois Huning (Düsseldorf, D): Preferences and value assessment in cases of decision under risk 16:00 Heiner Hastedt (Rostock, D): Ethical approaches to technology - danger of a German Sonderweg 16:30 Break 17:00 Hans Mohr (Stuttgart, D): Technology assessment in theory and practice 17:30 Ortwin Renn (Stuttgart, D): Technology assessment with regard to nature and society 18:00 Paul Durbin (Delaware, USA): Advances in the philosophy of technology? Comparative perspectives -------------------------------- May 24, Saturday -------------------------------- Contributed Papers by members of the Academy 9:00 Charles P. Enz (Genève, CH): La philosophie de la technologie selon Agazzi 9:30 Miguel Angel Quintanilla (Salamanca, E): The structure of technical systems 10:00 Guiseppe Del Re (Roma, I): Technology and the spirit of alchemy 10:30 Break 11:00 André Lichnerowicz (Paris, F): Science et technique: confusion entre les deux philosophies 11:30 Ramón Queraltó (Sevilla, E): Technology as a new condition of possibility of scientific knowledge 12:00 Jesus Mosterin (Pittsburgh, USA): Technology-mediated observation ================================================================== Académie Internationale de Philosophie des Sciences PRÉSIDENT: Prof. Evandro Agazzi Séminaire de philosophie Université Miséricorde CH - 1700 Fribourg Phone: +41-26-3007516 Fax: +41-26-3009762 SECRÉTARIAT GÉNÉRAL: Prof. J.-M. Van Cangh Rue Marie de Bourgogne, 8 B - 1050 Bruxelles Phone: +32-2-512-1549 Fax: +32-2-512-1884 VICE-PRÉSIDENTS: Prof. M. Pauri (Parma, Italy) Prof. G. Mueller (Heidelberg, Germany ASSESSEURS: Prof. D. Shapere (Winston Salem, USA) Prof. J. Mosterin (Barcelona, Spain) LOCAL CONFERENCE ORGANISATION: Prof. Hans Lenk Dr. Joachim Schummer Institute of Philosophy University of Karlsruhe Postfach 6980 D - 76128 Karlsruhe Phone: +49-721-608-2149 Fax: +49-721-608-3084 Email: Joachim.Schummer@geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de ------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Joachim Schummer, Institute of Philosophy, University of Karlsruhe Postfach 69 80, D-76128 Karlsruhe, GERMANY ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:57:20 GMT0BST Reply-To: s.e.lax@leeds.ac.uk Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: "S.E. LAX" Organization: University of Leeds Subject: seminar announcement Informed or Forewarned The social implications of new communications technologies `Education on [the] line - Schools and the Internet' (The second in a seminar series funded by the ESRC) Wednesday 28th May, 1997. Institute of Communications Studies, University of Leeds, 11.00am-4.00pm. What is the educational potential of the new communications technologies? The newly-elected government has promised that over the next few years every school and college in the UK will be wired to the Internet. The Prime Minister believes every school student should have an email address by the age of nine. At the same time there is growing concern at under-funding in education and a perception of falling standards. What should our priorities be? Windows 95 in every school, or new windows in school buildings? Speakers include: Professor Stephen Heppell, Ultralab, Anglia Polytechnic University. David Gordon, Campaign for State Education. Stephen Lax, University of Leeds. Registration fee: stlg 5 (stlg 3 students) Lunch and refreshments provided. Places are limited, so please register by returning the form below with the fee. Please repost this notice as appropriate (with the usual apologies for any cross-posting). -------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION FORM To register please return form with fee by WEDNESDAY 21st MAY: NAME: ADDRESS: POSTCODE: DAYTIME TEL NO: EMAIL ADDRESS: FEE (CHEQUES PAYABLE TO `UNIVERSITY OF LEEDS'): STLG 5 / 3 PLEASE INDICATE LUNCH REQUIREMENTS: Omnivore Vegetarian Other (please specify): Return to: Stephen Lax Institute of Communications Studies University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT Tel +44 (0)113 233 5817 Fax +44 (0)113 233 5809 email: informed@leeds.ac.uk http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ics/informed.htm ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 06:28:20 +0200 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Robert Maxwell Young Subject: On-line History of Psychology Library Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On-line History of Psychology Library Guide James H Korn and Miriam E. Joseph of Saint Louis University have compiled a quite extensive list of library resources relevant to the history of psychology, and they've made it available on the web. It can be found at: http://www.slu.edu/colleges/AS/PSY/510Guide.html __________________________________________ Robert Maxwell Young: robert@rmy1.demon.co.uk or r.m.young@sheffield.ac.uk, 26 Freegrove Rd., London N7 9RQ, Eng. tel.+44 171 607 8306 fax.+44 171 609 4837 Professor of Psychotherapy and Psychoanalytic Studies, Centre for Psychotherapeutic Studies, University of Sheffield. Home page and writings: http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/ Process Press publications: http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/process_press/index.html 'One must imagine Sisyphus happy.' - Camus ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:24:30 BST Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Jon Agar Subject: BSHS/SSHM Conference: The Meanings of Practice X-To: caduceus-l@Beach.UTMB.edu, h-sci-med-tech@h-net.msu.edu, HOPOS-L@lsv.UKY.EDU, mersenne@mailbase.ac.uk, sts@cctr.umkc.edu Conference co-sponsored by the Society for the Social History of Medicine and the British Society for the History of Science THE MEANINGS OF PRACTICE: historical and sociological perspectives on the practices of science, technology and medicine Manchester Friday, November 14, 1997 Speakers include: Marc Berg, Harry Collins, Nick Hopwood, Michael Lynch, Paolo Palladino, John Pickstone, Steven Turner, Andrew Warwick In recent years, the term 'practice' has been widely adopted by historians and sociologists of science, technology, and medicine to address a number of historiographical and sociological problems. These problems range from the importance of intellectual developments in the history of science, technology and medicine, to the relationship between social structures and human agency in social theory. The notions of 'practice' deployed to solve them seem to vary widely from one context to another, from the marxist, materialist notion of 'praxis' implicit in much work of social historians to the notion of 'world in the making' articulated by ethnomethodologists. Although both historians and sociologists often borrow and combine these notions to solve their particular problems, it is not always clear that they can combined so freely. In fact, some of these historians and sociologists are quite critical about some notions rather than others. The aim of the meeting is to highlight this diversity, without necessarily seeking, probably impossibly, to establish a single meaning of 'practice'. It might be more fruitful, instead, to consider the relationships between the diverse meanings by bringing together historians of sociologists and asking them to reflect and comment upon this diversity and the reasons for divergence. Pluralism is a good thing, but it does not invalidate criticism. INTRODUCTION Paolo Palladino (Lancaster University) SOCIOLOGICAL APPROACHES: Chair: Chris Lawrence (Wellcome Institute) Michael Lynch (Brunel University) INVESTIGATING PRACTICES, AS SUCH Practice has a curious attraction for social theory. Talk about practice (or practices) invites us to consider a productive source of social order that is not, in itself, theoretical. Invariably, however, theorized practices lose their practicality, and practice becomes an abstraction. Is there any alternative to intellectualizing practice? Drawing selectively on ethnomethodology, I suggest that there is an alternative to talking about practices. This alternative requires an effort to bring practices under examination in the course of their production. Harry Collins (University of Southampton) THEORETICAL PRACTICE In the field of gravitational wave detection there is competition between big physics and small physics approaches, interferometers and resonant bars and spheres. Given the experimenter's regress, and the fact that no gravitational waves have yet been detected, one might wonder how a $3M approach can coexist with a $350M approach, how the latter got funded. I will argue that part of the reason is that the big science of inteferometers was legitimated in part by theoretical practice: the best theories we have for sources of gravitational waves concern coalescing binary stars. These may not be the most likely source but they are the most well-established. Marc Berg (University of Limburg) PRACTICES OF READING AND WRITING: A SOCIOLOGY OF THE ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORD In this presentation, I discuss how we can see technologies as integrated in/part of/constitutive for a social practice. More specifically, I will discuss how the (electronic) medical record is an active intermediary in the practices of medicine. I will focus on the crucial role this seemingly boring artefact plays, and on how we can study this role. 'Practice', here, is taken in its productive sense: practices of reading and writing bring the medical record to life; through practices of reading and writing, the medical record produces specific patients' bodies, a specific body politic, and a specific body of knowledge. The historian's comments: Jon Harwood (University of Manchester): HISTORICAL APPROACHES: Chair: Jon Agar (University of Manchester) John Pickstone (University of Manchester) WORKING WITH WEBER: SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, MEDICINE AND THE PLURALITY OF PRACTICES 'Practice' is too often a licence for a new empiricism, for case-studies of a 'science' differentiated neither by place/time nor the structure of the work involved. I suggest we try to distinguish types of practice in science, technology, and medicine (as we would eg. for manufacturing). Thus we might improve our modelling of historical change in science, technology, and medicine, and our accounts of synchronic variety, including contested divisions of labour. I will argue that such modelling need not be teleological or intellectualist, but rather a means of integrating cognitive, social and material perspectives. Andrew Warwick (Imperial College) A MATHEMATICAL WORLD ON PAPER? Historians and philosophers of physics have traditionally sought meaning in physical theories of the past by reconstructing their essential ideas, sometimes expressed in mathematical form, as described by authors in published texts. Such theories are generally treated as passive and unchanging entities, whose meaning can be described without reference to the community in which they were actively researched, and whose truth content can be assessed, retrospectively, in terms of their logical structure and/or predictive accuracy. In this paper I shall discuss research in mathematical physics not in terms of static 'theories', but as an ongoing, participatory activity, through which a local community of actors finds cultural meaning and status. Taking the example of research in mathematical physics in Victorian Cambridge, I shall show how research can be analysed as a repertoire of taken-for-granted mathematical methods, and discuss how such methods rely for their reproduction and transmission on a local economy of institutionalised practice. I shall also consider through what resources, and to what extent, this kind of historically placed practice can be recovered at all. Nick Hopwood (Cambridge University) PRACTICES AND PRACTICE IN THE HISTORY OF EMBRYOLOGY Historical studies of the biological and biomedical sciences deploy the notion of 'practice' in two limiting, but not necessarily exclusive, ways. In the first, 'practices' are particular activities, general such as experimental practice or clinical practice, or specific like plasmid mini preps or tissue transplantation. Materialists have traditionally privileged such practices as standing in a similar relation to theory as eating to puddings. In its second and much more general meaning, 'practice' signals a dynamic analytic stance, in which any aspect of the science under study, be it testing, theorizing or teaching, should be grasped as creative action on material. I plan to explore these contrasting uses in a case study from the history of embryology. The sociologist's comments: Steve Woolgar (Brunel University) CONCLUDING COMMENTS Steven Turner (University of Florida) For further information, contact : Paolo Palladino Department of History Lancaster University Lancaster LA1 4YG P.Palladino@Lancaster.ac.uk W (01524) 592 793 H (01524) 847 489 P.Palladino@Lancaster.ac.uk ------------8<------------------8<-------------------- REGISTRATION THE MEANINGS OF PRACTICE: historical and sociological perspectives on the practices of science, technology and medicine Please register me for this meeting on 14 November 1997 I require ____ tickets @ 8 pounds (BSHS or SSHM members) I require ____ tickets @ 5 pounds (students and retired) I require ____ tickets @ 10 pounds (non-members) Name: Daytime tel. no.: Institutional affiliation: Address: Please send your cheque (in sterling) payable to "BSHS Ltd" to Wing-Commander G. Bennett BSHS Executive Secretary 31 High Street Stanford in the Vale OXON SN7 8LH Enquiries re payment from attendees from outside the UK should be made to Wing-Commander G. Bennett at the above address or by email: bshs@hidex.demon.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:37:03 +0200 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Robert Maxwell Young Subject: George Herbert Mead Archive X-To: psa-public-sphere@sheffield.ac.uk X-cc: CHEIRON@yorku.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" George Herbert Mead Archive http://paradigm.soci.brocku.ca/~lward/George2/frame2.html This is an excellent archive of over 90 publications, bibliographical, biographical and other materials concerning this important figure in social psychology and human science generally. __________________________________________ Robert Maxwell Young: robert@rmy1.demon.co.uk or r.m.young@sheffield.ac.uk, 26 Freegrove Rd., London N7 9RQ, Eng. tel.+44 171 607 8306 fax.+44 171 609 4837 Professor of Psychotherapy and Psychoanalytic Studies, Centre for Psychotherapeutic Studies, University of Sheffield. Home page and writings: http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/ Process Press publications: http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/process_press/index.html 'One must imagine Sisyphus happy.' - Camus ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 11:23:46 -0700 Reply-To: Blarne Flinkard Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Blarne Flinkard Subject: Foundations of Chemistry X-To: "Paul K. Feyerabend" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII New Journal from Kluwer: Foundations of Chemistry edited by E.R. Scerri and W.B. Jensen Scope of Journal The new journal will take an interdisciplinary approach to the study of philosophy of chemistry. The aim is to foster discourse between chemists, biochemists, philosophers, historians, sociologists and educators with an interest in foundational issues relating to the chemical sciences. We will concentrate on articles which take a naturalistic approach to foundations of chemistry, in the sense of paying close attention to actual research in chemistry. The scope of the journal will range from analytical philosophy such as work on chemical terms and natural kinds to institutional. Call for Papers We aim to publish the proceedings of the session on "Chemistry and Philosophy, Are they Miscible?", held at the American Chemical Society meeting in San Francisco, April 1997, as part of the first few issues of Foundations of Chemistry. The journal also invites other submissions on foundational issues of chemistry as described above. Inquiries etc. should be directed to Eric Scerri, preferably by E-mail at the following address: scerri@hss.caltech.edu For more information go to the "Foundations of Chemistry" home page at: http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~scerri/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:03:28 +0200 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Robert Maxwell Young Subject: Chapter 4 of Early Psychological Thought. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd like to announce the posting of Chapter 4 of _Early Psychological Thoguht: Ancient Accounts of Mind and Soul_, the e-book I'm writing with Philip Groff. This chapter is about Aristotle's phiolosphy of the psyche. It, and the previous chapters, can be found at: http://www.yorku.ca/faculty/academic/christo/earlypsy/ Regards, Christopher D. Green office: (416) 736-5121 Department of Psychology FAX: (416) 736-5814 York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3 e-mail: christo@yorku.ca CANADA http://www.yorku.ca/faculty/academic/christo __________________________________________ Robert Maxwell Young: robert@rmy1.demon.co.uk or r.m.young@sheffield.ac.uk, 26 Freegrove Rd., London N7 9RQ, Eng. tel.+44 171 607 8306 fax.+44 171 609 4837 Professor of Psychotherapy and Psychoanalytic Studies, Centre for Psychotherapeutic Studies, University of Sheffield. Home page and writings: http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/ Process Press publications: http://www.shef.ac.uk/~psysc/process_press/index.html 'One must imagine Sisyphus happy.' - Camus ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:31:29 -0400 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Jeff Gelles Subject: query I am a reporter at the Philadelphia Inquirer doing research for an article on the effects of direct-to-consumer drug advertising on doctors, patients and the practice of medicine. I am interested in speaking with physicians about this subject, whether they believe that the proliferation of such ads has been problematic, beneficial or a mixture of the two. You can reach me at the newspaper either by telephone (215-854-2776) or email (Jeff.Gelles@Phillynews.com). I'd greatly appreciate hearing firsthand accounts of doctors' experiences. Thank you for your time, and my apologies to those on this mailing list to whom this query is irrelevant. Jeff Gelles ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:12:46 +0200 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Robert Maxwell Young Subject: NEWS: Science Studies Rebuffed at Institute of Advanced Study, USA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Academe Today: This Week's Chronicle The Chronicle of Higher Education Date: May 16, 1997 Section: Research & Publishing Page: A13 _________________________________________________________________ The Science Wars Flare at the Institute for Advanced Study The rejection of a Princeton professor divides scholars at the center that was once Einstein's intellectual home By Liz McMillen Six years ago, the sociologist Bruno Latour was on the verge of an appointment in the field of science studies at the Institute for Advanced Study. But when scientists and mathematicians at the institute became upset about his work on life in the laboratory, he withdrew his candidacy. Now another attempt to appoint a scholar to the same post has met a similar fate, leaving a residue of bitterness and anger on the institute's stately campus in Princeton, N.J., and opening a new chapter in what has become known as the science wars. This month, the institute's director vetoed the appointment of M. Norton Wise, a historian of science at Princeton University. The director overrode recommendations from scholars at the institute and elsewhere. Several faculty members close to the proceedings say people at the institute who are hostile to science studies had succeeded in blocking the appointment. Dr. Wise, who directs the history-of-science program at Princeton, is the co-author, with Crosbie Smith, of an award-winning study of Lord Kelvin, the 19th-century British mathematical physicist. Dr. Wise has doctoral degrees in physics and history and is widely seen as a mediating figure between the increasingly divided camps of scientists and those who study science from cultural, sociological, and historical perspectives. According to faculty members in the institute's School of Social Science, who nominated Dr. Wise for the appointment, he received positive evaluations and his work was cited as significant and original. But when his case came before a six-member committee of institute faculty members and outside scholars, someone at the institute -- it's not clear who -- requested more letters of evaluation. Some of these letters reportedly came from people outside the field or from scholars who are known to be critical of it. The committee voted 4 to 2 in Dr. Wise's favor, with both of the dissenting votes cast by institute scholars: Edward Witten, a mathematical physicist in the School of Natural Sciences, and Glen W. Bowersock, a historian in the School of Historical Studies. And at that point, Phillip Griffiths, the institute's director, decided not to proceed with the appointment. "The sad part is that this very vibrant, engaging area of intellectual inquiry, with real factual and interpretive breakthroughs, won't be done at an institute which is supposed to be on the cutting edge," said Joan Scott, a professor at the social-science school. "We're just going to give up." A faculty position at the institute is a plum. It offers freedom to pursue research without teaching duties, higher salaries than those at many universities, and a heady intellectual atmosphere on a campus with a grand scientific lineage. But the home of Albert Einstein and the mathematicians Kurt Godel and John von Neumann has become a staging area in the war over the study of science -- battles over whether someone who is not a scientist is qualified to study it, and whether science should be regarded as purely objective. Clifford Geertz, another faculty member in the social-science school, said a small clique of scholars in the natural sciences object to science studies and to the social sciences generally. "They have worked against us for years," he said. "The letters in this case were overwhelmingly positive. Then they went on a fishing expedition." The Henry Luce Foundation has provided more than $500,000 in grant support for the professorship, but Dr. Scott and Dr. Geertz say they have offered to return the money. "The scientists have succeeded in preventing this kind of work from being done here," said Dr. Scott. Reached last week, Dr. Wise said he was very disappointed by the decision but more worried about what it may mean for science studies. "My whole career has been built on bridging physics and the humanities," he said. "I was looking forward to the opportunity to act as a mediator between the two. "From everything I can tell, it was a pretty shabby business. There apparently were letters from physicists who don't know anything about my work. The lack of professionalism: it's not only disappointing, it's scandalous, one might say." Dr. Griffiths, the director, said that he could not discuss the specifics of the case, but that an executive committee had reviewed and approved the proceedings. "When there is division on the committee and considerable division among the faculty, the director meets in consultation with faculty and others outside the institute to try to bring the matter to resolution in as fair and objective a way as possible," he said. "That's what I did." Asked whether there was hostility to science studies at the institute, he said, "That's not true, as best as I can tell." He cited the case of another historian of science, Peter Galison of Harvard University, who was named to the professorship in 1994, after Dr. Latour's appointment did not go through. Dr. Galison ended up staying at Harvard because there wasn't an academic position for his wife nearby. Dr. Witten did not return phone calls last week. Dr. Bowersock said he agreed that there there wasn't resistance to science studies at the institute. As to his vote against Dr. Wise, he said that it represented "an estimate of quality. I'd rather not go further into it than that. It certainly has nothing to do with the field." One scholar who voted for Dr. Wise, Nancy Cartwright, a professor of philosophy at the London School of Economics, said she didn't think any "procedural illegalities" had taken place, "though I suspect the decision was influenced by opinions of people who are not experts, or who don't think the field has much merit." The decision, which came as the social-science school was preparing to mark its 25th anniversary last weekend, appears to have left wounds at the school, the smallest of four at the institute. It has only three permanent faculty members. Michael Walzer, a political theorist, who said he was as upset as his colleagues about the decision, is the third one. Smarting from two unsuccessful attempts to fill the professorship, the faculty members said they felt their autonomy and judgment had been undermined. "I've been here for 25 years trying to build this damn school," said Dr. Geertz. "Other appointments at the institute have no trouble. Ours, we always have to fight over them." He said that after attempts to meet with the institute's Board of Trustees had been rebuffed, the school's faculty members had decided to make their complaints known. "With the Latour appointment, I agreed not to say anything, to call Bruno and ask him to withdraw, and we were promised that this wouldn't happen again. It's now happened again, and we can't agree to remain silent. I don't think we should roll over with our paws in the air one more time." While Dr. Latour's studies on the workings of scientific laboratories have been controversial -- he is known for approaching scientists as members of a primitive tribe -- Dr. Wise's work is seen as more mainstream. His book on Lord Kelvin, Energy and Empire: William Thomson, Lord Kelvin, 1824-1907, won the Pfizer Prize of the History of Science Society in 1990. "We thought this was the leading book on what's called the second scientific revolution of the 19th century," said Dr. Scott. Dr. Wise is now working on a study of the dominant modes of explanation in the history of science during three eras. Last summer, he had an exchange with the Nobel Laureate Steven Weinberg in The New York Review of Books over a piece that Dr. Weinberg had written about Alan Sokal's hoax in the cultural-studies journal Social Text. Dr. Sokal had attempted to show the intellectual bankruptcy of much of the thinking that goes into the cultural study of science. Dr. Weinberg praised Dr. Sokal for doing a "a great service" in raising the issue. Dr. Wise, in a letter to the editor, questioned whether Dr. Weinberg was promoting his own cultural agenda. Had it not been for this exchange, said Dr. Scott, Dr. Wise's appointment might not have been contested. Dr. Wise said he was concerned about what the decision may mean for scholars in less secure positions than his own. "If the rumors about what happened at the institute are correct, it would seem to indicate some of the most intimidating aspects of the science wars -- a call for what Mario Bunge has called a truth squad, to expel the charlatans from the university," he said. "There is a very specific aspect to the science wars, and it has to do with relativism. It's always read as radical relativism -- any account is the same as another. Very few people actually believe this. "Relativism has become the great bugaboo. It's almost like Communism. It has the same damning association, whether you're a party member or not." _________________________________________________________________ Copyright (c) 1997 by The Chronicle of Higher Education, Inc. http://chronicle.com Title: The Science Wars Flare at the Institute for Advanced Study Published: 97/05/16 _______________________________________________________________________ fair use reprint for nonprofit educational use only __________________________________________ Robert Maxwell Young: robert@rmy1.demon.co.uk or r.m.young@sheffield.ac.uk, 26 Freegrove Rd., London N7 9RQ, Eng. tel.+44 171 607 8306 fax.+44 171 609 4837 Professor of Psychotherapy and Psychoanalytic Studies, Centre for Psychotherapeutic Studies, University of Sheffield. 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From: "Dr. Joerg Struebing" Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Subject: Science and Technology Studies in Germany X-To: mersenne-discussion list , stscctr.umkc.edu@zedat.fu-berlin.de, klaus.amann@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de, olga.amsterdamska@sara.nl, r.bal@law.leidenuniv.nl, balzer@lrz.uni-muenchen.de, barben@medea.wz-berlin.de, nbayers@smtpgwy.isinet.com, beulieu@sara.nl, ju9@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, R.J.Benschop@ppsw.rug.nl, Marc.Berg@GW.RuLimburg.nl, socmb@pcibt.dk, 74741.2506@compuserve.com, bijker@tss.rulimburg.nl, birrer@rulwinw.leidenuniv.nl, a498valk@horus.sara.nl, 101610.1007@compuserve.com, bonitz@fz-rossendorf.de, boogerd@nat.vu.nl, b.bos@esau.th.vu.nl, his@rrz.uni-hamburg.de, b.bos@esau.jm.vu.nl, brouwer@pscw.uva.nl, callebaut@philosophy.rulimburg.nl, ccr@ouh.nl, a.debont@GW.RuLimburg.nl, ronit@dk-online.dk, AdeBont@GW.RuLimburg.nl, philip.vergragt@wtm.tudelft.nl, k.delange@buro.kun.nl, devries@philosophy.rulimburg.nl, R.deWilde@philosophy.rulimburg.nl, Deichmann@gen1.genetik.uni-koeln.de, m.derksen@ppsw.rug.nl, C.Disco@wmw.utwente.nl, a498dres@horus.sara.nl, b.elzen@wmw.utwente.nl, berte@sepa.tudelft.nl, ernst@iwm.univie.ac.at, rainer.fischbach@schwaben.de, wfreitag@wz.uni-bielefeld.de, koen@sara.nl, frercks@ehf.uni-oldenburg.de, fuchs@afta-bw.de, ulrich.gaehde@uni.bayreuth.de, klasien.horstman@GW.RuLimburg.nl, a.geuna@merit.rulimburg.nl, glaenzel@mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de, britta.goers@stud.uni-regensburg.de, grande@mpi-fg-koeln.mpg.de, grasshof@mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de, Bart.Gremmen@alg.tf.wau.nl, grin@pscw.uva.nl, KOR@philos.rug.nl, gru@isi.fhg.de, hai@hai.antenna.nl, arndt.guettner@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de, rob@horus.sara.nl, Hajer@lrz.uni-muenchen.de, jost.halfmann@pop3.tu-dresden.de, stiess@ern.uni-frankfurt.de, sven.kesselring@lrz.uni-muenchen.de, Peter@ehf.uni-oldenburg.de, fe5a048@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de, e.m.b.heller@fys.ruu.nl, sven.hemlin@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de X-cc: Gerald Wagner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Apologies for cross -postings! New Discussion list on Science and Technology Studies in Germany established Dear colleagues, I'like to announce the new discussion list of the German 'Gesellschaft fuer Wissenschafts und Technikforschung (GWTF e.V:) (Society for Science and technology Studies) Due to an effort in restructuring the work of the GWTF we are currently trying to establish a more continual stream of communication on various topics of science and technology research. The GWTF aims to offer an arena for trans-disciplinary discussions, i.e. the society is not dedicated to sociologists only but tries to foster exchange of ideas across the borders between humanities and technical and natural sciences (as long as there are borders;-). The discussion list 'GWTF-talk' is meant to be the primary media to this purpose. Its usual discussion language is German, however, we certainly appreciate contributions in English. We would appreciate new members both for the dicsuccion list (see subscriptin advices belo) and for the GWTF itself (for membership questioins please contact Gerald Wagner: gerald@chem.uva.nl). How to sign upthe list: Please send an email without subject and with the following content: subscribe GWTF-talk YOUR EMAIL.ADDRESS to this address: majordomo@majordomo.zedat.fu-berlin.de Your wellcome! Within a few weeks the GWTF will have its own webpage - We will post this information to you immediately. On behalf of the committee of the GWTF Joerg Struebing -- ************************************************************************ Dr. Joerg Struebing, Free University of Berlin, Institute for Sociology, Babelsberger Str. 14-16, 10715 Berlin, Phone +04930-85002-140/Fax-138 E-Mail: jstrueb@zedat.fu-berlin.de www: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ifs/struebin/welcome.html private: Lassallestr. 19, D-34119 Kassel, +049-561-774946 ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:03:30 -0500 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: richard nash Subject: Re: NEWS: Science Studies Rebuffed at Institute of Advanced Study, USA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since I have not yet seen this message posted to the list, and the author does encourage its circulation, here is Bruno Latour's response to the recent decision at Princeton. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:32:50 +0200 >From: Bruno LATOUR > >yes, this is very distressing and much more important than the Sokal >affair; here is my "communique"! please feel free to circulate for what it >is worth > >>From the Sokal affair to the Wise scandal > >The Sokal affair was started because a few social and natural scientists >were worried that the level of Academic quality was being undermined by >scholars who forgot about the right rational procedures and were >associating themselves with movements and positions deemed irrational or >obscurantist and loosely labelled "postmodern". >While there was some sensible elements in this reaction -especially because >it criticized forms of social constructivism that are deeply flawed (and >many of us had been doing this same critique of sociologism much more >forcefully and with much more argument for years), there was also a nasty >feeling of a crusade, first against intellectuals and their right to >dissent and, second, against an entire domain of social science, called >"sciences studies". Basically, it meant that while everything was studiable >through scientific procedures, science itself was not. People supporting >Sokal accused the science students to deny the objectivity of science, >while forbidding them to transform scientific practice into an object of >science. > Still, there was a possible hesitation on the right interpretation of the >Sokal affair. Maybe, after all, were these people genuinely worried about >the lack of academic standards. >Now, a second affair, much more serious, is offering an ideal test to >evaluate the first affair: Norton Wise (an historian of science at >Princeton University whose credentials are impeccable) is being banned from >taking a position at the Institute of Advanced Studies, position to which >he was elected through the due process of normal academic assessment of >quality. Disgruntled people at the Institute claims that they are not >against the field of "science studies" but against this particular >individual; however for 7 years now they have been unable to agree on >someone to fulfill the position. More exactly they agreed and then the due >process was submerged by anti-science studies witch-hunting. It is thus now >clear enough that they are against the very idea that science be >scientifically studiable or that they claim the incredible privilege for >the objects of study to decide on who should study them and how and which >sorts of conclusions have to be acceptable. Imagine the furor of this same >people if bishops had the right to veto studies in the sociology of >religion, or if politicians had the right to decide who is and who is not a >good political scientist. And yet, this is the sort of privilege they claim >for epistemology. >Now, here is the occasion for the Sokalists to show their mettle: if they >are really against anti-science intellectual movement they should strongly >and publicly come forward and protest against this clear breach of >scientific procedures. Yes, they are people who are anti-science, against >enquiry in the secrets of nature, against the objectivity of science, >against intellectual freedom: but they are not to be found in the ranks of >science studies, they are now much more clearly than before in the ranks of >those who claim for science a status of extraterritoriality which put it >off the limits of scientific enquiry, like the Bible, the soul,the body, >the Moon used to be. >If the Sokalists join us in the public protest, they will prove that they >are genuinely attached to scientific enquiry and we can indeed start >seriously discussing what is so wrong in the notion of social >constructivism and which better research programs can continue studying >scientific practice; if they don't, and thus agree with the witch-hunters >at the Institute, they will prove that they are the only anti-science >people in town and that they don't deserve more respect than creationists >wanting to vet the appointment of evolutionary biologists. It is perfectly >healthy for "objects" of study to become the equal of those who study them >-the move has been going on now for years in anthropology, feminist study, >sociology, medical sociology, drug studies all fields that have immensely >profited from the robust intervention of their informants requesting an >equal footing with their enquirers - and this has indeed been the great >quality of science studies over the years. But if objects of study decide >on the appointments of the scientists studying them, it is no longer >equality, but tyranny! >Bruno Latour >(this posting indicates my position only, feel free to circulate) > >--------------------------- > >email: latour@csi.ensmp.fr >office phone: 33-01-40-51-91-90 >fax at the office: 33-01-43-54-56-28 >snail-mail adress: 62 Boulevard St Michel 75006 PARIS ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:07:08 +0000 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Bernward Joerges Subject: Re: Konto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ja, ok, in grosser Eile, Bernward Prof. Dr. Bernward Joerges Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin Reichpietschufer 50 D-10785 Berlin tel. -49/(0)30/25491411 or -284 (secr.) fax 25491254 (secr.) or -684 (central) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:41:03 -0400 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: "Rooney,John Peter" Subject: Re: Konto why did you send this all around???? >---------- >From: Bernward Joerges[SMTP:joerges@MEDEA.WZ-BERLIN.DE] >Sent: Friday, May 23, 1997 7:07AM >To: SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >Subject: Re: Konto > >Ja, ok, >in grosser Eile, >Bernward >Prof. Dr. Bernward Joerges >Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin >Reichpietschufer 50 >D-10785 Berlin >tel. -49/(0)30/25491411 or -284 (secr.) >fax 25491254 (secr.) or -684 (central) > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:30:47 -0700 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture From: Herbert Helmstreit Subject: Re: Konto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rooney,John Peter wrote: > > why did you send this all around???? > >---------- > >From: Bernward Joerges[SMTP:joerges@MEDEA.WZ-BERLIN.DE] > >Sent: Friday, May 23, 1997 7:07AM > >To: SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU > >Subject: Re: Konto > > > >Ja, ok, > >in grosser Eile, > >Bernward > >Prof. Dr. Bernward Joerges > >Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin > >Reichpietschufer 50 > >D-10785 Berlin > >tel. -49/(0)30/25491411 or -284 (secr.) > >fax 25491254 (secr.) or -684 (central) > >I also wondered, why this private mail was posted. Regards Herbert Helmstreit